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The Boy
Member
Username: The_boy
Post Number: 137
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 12:20 pm: | |
"Did you ask for a Napo funded Race against Justice conference that costs 63 whole pounds just for the dinner?"
No, I did not, and I am appalled at how expensive the whole event is. |
identity crisis
Member
Username: Pigs_with_wigs
Post Number: 611
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 09:43 pm: | |
De Boy did you ask for a Napo funded Race against Justice conference that costs 63 whole pounds just for the dinner? Cos we are being told we face a finance crisis due to cost of Napo v number of memebrs and a possible rise in subs.
I definately know for a fact umpteen motions have been passed about language yet our officials still use the word "offender", the number of motions on Oasys? The workloads motion that called for industrial action 4 years ago...... I didn't say they didn't do what the members want all the time ... I think they only do it when it suits them. Again I am talking not about elected officers but employed officials.
Apart from Johanathan who gets elected every five years I am not even sure how we get rid of the others if we a disatisfied. |
The Boy
Member
Username: The_boy
Post Number: 133
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 10:57 am: | |
ID, I was indeed at AGM. I admired your speech against the motion to reduce quoracy to 4% It truly baffles me that some people can’t accept personal responsibility for turning up. It is embarrassing to have to have discussions about reducing quoracy just so business can be done. Your speech practically defeated that motion, so thanks for that. I was against it from the start and was in disagreement with members of my own branch. Democracy, eh?
I don’t agree with you that Napo HQ seem to do what they want. An example is Tim Wilson speaking at TUC conference on the composite motion attacking the far right (see Jonathan Ledger’s blog). Napo members have indicated their support for efforts to fight the BNP, so Tim Wilson has represented his members on this issue very well. |
Rob Palmer
Moderator
Username: Rob_palmer
Post Number: 495
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 09:29 am: | |
Not that I am aware of. The heritage I speak of is my Great Great Grandmother who was from the part of India that was subsequently annexed as Pakistan. Was it 1947? I tried to read up on the politics of the region but it is very confusing - I don't even understand the politics of Wales where I was actually born. My GG Grandfather (name of Travers) met and married my GG Grandmother when he was out there with the British Army. My 100 year old Grandmother still remembers her well and speaks very highly of her.
I don't think, therefore I'm not.
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identity crisis
Member
Username: Pigs_with_wigs
Post Number: 610
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 09:54 pm: | |
really Rob? have we met? |
Rob Palmer
Moderator
Username: Rob_palmer
Post Number: 494
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:39 am: | |
Consultation is overated. There is a reason why novels aren't written by committees. Whilst democracy is an ideal, in many cases, in its purest form, it is disabling and causes unnecessary and unhelpful delays. In 20 years of NAPO membership, including 5 years at the NEC, I have never felt that the actions of the officials has been unreasonable, even if I disagree with them on specific points.
Otherwise, ID, as someone of Pakistani heritage myself, I agree totally with the sentiment of your original post and will endeavour to speak out wherever I find such injustices.
I don't think, therefore I'm not.
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identity crisis
Member
Username: Pigs_with_wigs
Post Number: 609
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 03:25 pm: | |
Myob, me old mucker. Having sat through AGM's where we ahve passed motions on OAsys,workloads etc and then through accountability sessions, committee meetings and NEC where we do the exact opposite I feel I am being accurate.
Think of some of the changes that have occured and at what point if any members were consulted. Think about some of the concerns that have been raised by members and what action has been taken. Don't get me wrong I think that our officials are a hard working bunch of people with the best interests of the union at heart. I also think that sometimes they need to stop thinking that they know best; because they are professional union officials, and start listening to what members want. |
Myob
Member
Username: Psiman
Post Number: 454
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 12:38 pm: | |
"NAPO HQ seem to do what they WANT and what members think is only relevant if it is what the officials think as well" Seems a little unfair. Isn't that why we have AGM, committees, branch meetings etc?
BTW - What are we going to untie? Will we do it assertively? I can think of some good ways of combating fascism that involve tying things - but that might be aggressive ;o) |
identity crisis
Member
Username: Pigs_with_wigs
Post Number: 608
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 06:34 pm: | |
Take it you were at AGM too "The Boy". NAPO HQ seem to do what they WANT and what members think is only relevant if it is what the officials think as well. Me I work on the basis that perhaps they will read this board, sleep a little then think it is their own idea. There is a link to napo via the untie against fascism website though. |
The Boy
Member
Username: The_boy
Post Number: 132
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:52 am: | |
What we need is EFFECTIVE collective efforts to oppose the BNP. I really hope that Napo colleagues actually do something rather than just mutter about how wicked the BNP is.
Have you contacted HQ about the lack of a link to the Hope not Hate website? |
identity crisis
Member
Username: Pigs_with_wigs
Post Number: 607
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 06:54 pm: | |
Morning campers,
Last Friday i was sat outside a pub in Torquay when a middle aged well dressed chap approached myself and my two coleagues. He started talking to one of them and suddenly I heard the comment,
"I know you'll be voting for the BNP everyone with sense will. They are the only party with the guts to tell the truth. We need to get the Pakis out (his words not mine so don't moderate me please)."
My friend was shocked and very offended something which she told him in very clear terms. I also indicated that being a "Paki" I found his comments incredibly offensive. He then turned to me and said "I don't mean you" and continued raving about getting the Pakis and the poles out of the country.
This is all really a preamble to the following.
1. There is a scary increase in open right wing fascism.
2. The fascists in suits are now crawling out of the woodwork. These ones don't just rely on muscle but weild a disturbing amount of power.
3. The english defence League is marching in Manchester on Sat 10th October
4. There is no Napo link from the Hope not Hate website.
Now I would ask each and everyone of you to do your bit to rectify the above. Join local campaigns to leaflet against the fascists in the run up to the election, join protest marches against them-don't let them through to terrorise others, link Napo to anti fascists groups and most importantly never think that you are to busy to stand up for yourself and others. Becuase to busy may become to late.
The fascists don't rest, sleep or switch off they can scent victory and they will exploit weakness and apathy.
they are coming for me.......will you speak out and stop them? |
